our focus is, remote first mining. So really taking people out of harm's way and it could be, on surface it could be a hundred feet away. It could be in a different city. What have you, but my question here is around, how do you mine remotely when you're at site? are companies doing that right now, anybody know of any of those examples of people mining remotely while they're at site

I can talk about that a little bit. And that's exactly what we're developing out. The Onaping depth mine is remote doesn't necessarily mean you're a thousand kilometers away from your mine site? I think the ability to, to deliver information to anybody on site, anybody off site, we have the advantage of, being in the sudbury basin. There's a. A great ecosystem of, support here, whether it's OEMs and, specific technical companies. And, it's a wonderful opportunity for us to live within this ecosystem. But, being able to mine remotely means that we can take advantage of the cloud technology. We can take advantage of worldwide technology. Some of the things that, Martin and Charles are talking about, they become accessible to you no matter where you are. so for us, mining remotely at site means that we're, we're removing people from the face. You just talked about that Neha. and they had the, especially at depth, it becomes increasingly difficult to mine safely at the face. And we're, working with, partners around, load wire fire technology, to be able to do it robotically, to keep people a minimum of four meters away from the face. too, that's a key tenant of. Of our innovation program is to keep people back four meters from, from, the face of the mine unsupported ground. so that's, connectivity and communication is essential for all of these projects, and without it, we just can't do it. and, by implementing a LTE, underground, the private LT system, it becomes a, the latency becomes a less of a factor. The handover you've talked about the dead zones or the dark spots, the hand over of devices and equipment for going from, from one place to the other. And the mine is, becomes much more. and we need to get to the point where, the network is like any other service. We don't mine without electricity. We don't mine without ventilation. And we don't mine without connectivity to the surface, which allows everybody, whether you're, whether you're underground at the face, whether you're a supervisor on their beat, whether you're a management on surface, or whether you're working in a remote, location, centralized CCR, to be able to get that information, real-time information back to them. And Martain says it's gotta be the right information. It can't be just blowing people away with all the information that's available. It's gotta be specific KPIs, specifics, status is, for those individuals to be able to make their decisions and, edge computing is a wonderful example of that. Is that, how much of the, how much of the data can we keep at the work location, to deliver that information to the worker, to make decisions for autonomous vehicles? that, to me, that's a wonderful challenge with, the availability of the data is how do we use it? How do we deliver it, in real time to the people who need to make the correct decisions, at the appropriate level. So I think, for us mining remotely, it means that it'd be able to bring the information to the right people

That's awesome. And, the, what I like about what you just said, Greg, is just a point that you hit on, which is, when you think about utilities, that's, water or electricity, but connectivity is a utility of the future that, that we might not be able to live without.